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Episode 66: Sandler’s David Mattson’s View on The Future of Sales

 “We’ve gotten away from developing people … we take the risk of becoming order takers.” – Dave Mattson, CEO, Sandler Training On this episode of The Pivotal Leader, Gina Trimarco interviewed Dave Mattson, a a best-selling author, sales and management visionary, and leader of the world’s largest sales effectiveness organization. As CEO and President...
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Episode 65: The future of selling = more sales with less sales people 

“We’re going to have less sales people than ever before … 60%, or more, of the sale is already done by the time a sales person is contacted.” – Tom Niesen, CEO, Acuity Systems On this episode of The Pivotal Leader, Gina Trimarco interviewed Tom Niesen, CEO of Acuity Systems, who spent 14 years in...
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